December 21, 2014 at 10:22 am #8440
It has been of some concern to me for a long time that we seem to spend a lot of time involved with competitions; our own and the external ones. It seems to be the same in other clubs too. Some people seem very happy with this but photography has more to offer than just the perfected single image which is the aim in competitions. We might well all learn more too if we see a wider variety of work.
One thing you can do is post your work on this Forum for people to comment on. Another things we can do is show more of our work at meetings. We have made one of two attempts at this, in various guises. They have been reasonable successful but then we seem to pass on to the next thing and they don’t become the feature of our meetings that I for one would like to see.
We could submit sets of pictures (PDIs perhaps), limited in number to perhaps 6 or 12, certainly no more, which illustrate something; a visit to somewhere, an event, a subject, anything you like. There would be no need whatsoever to make these into an AV type sequence, but you could if you wanted to.
What do you think?December 21, 2014 at 6:18 pm #8446
I can only agree – but whether this is a reflection of performance in competitions, is a question I can’t answer. The opportunity to see new pictures (good or bad – depending on perception) would certainly be welcome – especially if they demonstrated new themes, instead of the ubiquitous re-enactment days and Goths at Whitby!December 21, 2014 at 7:24 pm #8447
I agree with you as well John. We do enter a lot of internal and external competitions and perhaps we should review which ones we really want to enter with view of reducing the number. Having so many makes a lot of work for the competitions secretery and for members who try to enter them all. I like the idea of having a platform, like the forum to display experimental shots and ones I wasn’t sure about to get the views of other members. The forum is a great place for this but unfortunately, there isn’t much feed back, so it may be better to do it on an open night like we’ve done in the past.December 21, 2014 at 8:23 pm #8451
Ceryainly I am all for a new line of enquiry of viewing photographs, even though I enjoy the competitions (moaning aside). I also know how off putting judges comments can seem (especially if he brings in personal taste). Perhaps more of the open evenings we have can be used to discuss work. We have about 35 members but only a handful use the forum, its getting members interested and engaged enough to take part. This would be the key to more getting active, to make them feel as though their opinions matter. As to what photographs are put up for disscusion on the forum and on open nights should be encouraged and certainly what ever genre you take they should be welcomed and not frowned or looked down on.December 21, 2014 at 8:47 pm #8452
Having just spent half an hour trying, in vain – again – am I alone in finding access to uploading to the forum difficult? Is this why it is little used?
There is obviously a knack, but until it is found it can be a bit daunting. Ian’s instructions were followed to the letter tonight but I still finished up with a blurred
image – albeit the right size, at the 3rd time of trying! I am happy to accept my culpability – but maybe I am not alone in finding it difficult!
Could I further suggest that a questionnaire could be handed out to members, at a reasonably well attended meeting, asking one very simple question:
Why don’t you use the Forum?
Just a thought.December 21, 2014 at 8:59 pm #8453
Ralph >>> Your problem with uploading pictures puzzles me: most failures result in the picture not displaying at all; I’ve never come across a picture being the right size, being embedded in the post, but looking blurred. That sounds more like a problem with editing, not with the web site. I’ll email you.December 21, 2014 at 9:36 pm #8454
John >>> I like your idea of working on a coherent series of photos – this is exactly the sort of creative photography that the competition ethos of the ‘single high-impact picture’ fails to accommodate.
I’m also very aware of the immense benefits of peer-review sessions in pairs or small groups. Talking about the successes and faults in photographs – our own or other people’s – is probably the best means for improvement; but it needs to be a conversation, not merely listening to a judge’s brief remarks. The more of this we could do the better. Even a brief period, done fairly frequently as part of the normal meeting would, I’m certain, be immensely beneficial.December 22, 2014 at 11:44 am #8455
Thanks for those answers, they are very encouraging and now we can perhaps discuss some details. Some members may not be happy talking about their pictures but we can easily accommodate that with a question and answer process or by asking for details in advance.
I couldn’t ” tune in” while Ralph’s picture was displayed but we should remember that, while the Forum is private we can see anything posted straight into the Forum quite readily. If I remember correctly the picture appears as a small rendition and then enlarges if you click on it after logging in. We are all logged in now when we are reading posts.December 22, 2014 at 9:59 pm #8476
I wonder if Ralphs’ picture looked blurred because it was resized with a very low reolution. I find and easy way to resize them in Photoshop is to take a copy of the original. The crop it with the longest side being 680px or similar, leave the other side blank and the reolution to 72ppi or larger if you wish. Then crop the whole image to it’s current extents. This in effect resizes so it can be easily uploaded to the forum’s gallery. If you view it in the gallery you can right click on it and copy the image location and paste that into the thread. This method works fine for me but other have their own preference.December 24, 2014 at 11:38 am #8494
I have earlier referred vaguely to including pictures in our posts. I meant attaching them. This was at first discouraged but now the Forums are private everyone viewing will be signed in and can view a larger image of an attachment quite readily. It is not as good as including a picture in the post but at least it is a start for anyone having trouble with the process.
Attachments:You must be logged in to view attached files.December 24, 2014 at 3:58 pm #8510
The Chairmans opening here regarding displaying photographs out of the competition network –for appraisal-discussion–critique etc.is a step in the right direction. Ralph goes on to point out problems members have downloading images. This can easily be overcome . Members do not have a problem downloading text to the forum. But thereby lies the problem—which is 90% of participating members choosing not to comment on many images on the forum where someone has taken the time and been supportive to the forum by downloading photo”s. The members gallery displays the times and names of members recent activity on the forum. It will be seen and this is most of the time–they choose not to make any comment at all on images recent or past. Ian has been a very patient Webmaster and deserves support to make it a success.December 27, 2014 at 6:27 pm #8536
It is a bit discouraging when you don’t get any feed back, positive or negative, from posted pictures or comments, but forum doesn’t have many contributors and they don’t always have the time to comment. If we could more members to use the forum it may help. Ian does contribute a lot of information to the forum. I try to follow it up when I can my head around it, but some of it’s a bit heavy for me!
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