PAGB; A U-turn on nature

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    ajroyle
    Keymaster

    The PAGB have just announced that they will once more allow “minor” adjustments by cloning to nature images.

    This means that they will be departing from other national photography bodies, such as the RPS, whose rules regarding this will not be changing.

    They are obviously bowing to pressure from club workers who cannot stand having untidy nature pictures.

    Just when I thought they were moving towards insisting on indexicality (i.e. truth) in photography, this is very disappointing.

    #15799

    KEN LAST
    Participant

    Only “minor” so in the great scheme of things does it really matter. This week celebrates 100 years of great suffragette movement– now wherever have we put that ladies cup???

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    wbaxter
    Participant

    #15801

    wbaxter
    Participant

    Some Minor Cloning Then less than 19%

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    Peter Robinson
    Keymaster

    It’s a shame that all of these photographic bodies can’t agree on a standard rule for all nature photographs. I can see us having a debate about what is a minor clone. Wallace has cloned the splash in his photo which took up a 19% of the photo. Is that minor? I was also confused when Ian Whiston informed us of a definition of nature photography and it was different from the definition of wild life photography.

    Confused of Crewe signing off.

    #15806

    wbaxter
    Participant

    I think we as a club should stay with the NO Clone in Nature competitions, no matter what the PAGB do.

    I will be happy to propose this at our next AGM.

    #15808

    ajroyle
    Keymaster

    Thanks Wallace and Peter. We can indeed keep to the RPS rules, since anything which satisfies those will also satisfy the PAGB. However, our true images will meet up with the tidied ones when we enter LCPU competitions, as they are bound to follow the PAGB.

    Nature and Wildlife; well, wildlife means subjects which are wild and free. The Nature category was really invented to avoid endless discussion of what exactly that means, accepting that a lot of club pictures are of trained or captive organisms. Paradoxically, although “zoo shots” are allowed, they mustn’t appear to be! Hence netting, Jessies  etc, etc should not appear in your nature pictures.

    I agree that 19% replacement is not minor. Trouble is that if you allow any replacement where does it stop? Better say none.

    We will find out more about this soon, as the LCPU AGM is taking place at the end of the month.

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