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    ajroyle
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    I think it may have been Barry Beckham who told the story of his first visit to a camera club print competition in Australia (where he now lives). As soon as the judging started almost everyone in the room raised a pair of binoculars to their eyes.

    Seeing the prints is, of course, difficult for almost everyone except those on the front row.

    Some clubs overcome this by having massive racks on which to display the prints and then  before and after the judging they can be viewed closely by everyone. This, to me, is ideal. You do really need to get a close view to appreciate the surface and detail of the work. I also prefer, though, to see the prints individually a they are judged.

    The advent of the possibility of an easily made facsimile, in the shape of a PDI, of the print, made it possible to have the picture projected as the print was judged. Great idea, everyone can see the print, or at least what is depicted by it.

    The danger is, of course, of the big, bright projected image literally takes the limelight and, if the judge can see the projection it is hard for them to avoid comparisons, or even to start judging the PDI.

    At the Library the ceiling was very high and we could project OVER the print stand, so the judge had to make a deliberate effort to see the projection. This was  ideal.

    Unfortunately the room at the Lifestyle Centre has a low ceiling, lowered even more by the light fittings and we are having trouble with projection intruding rather than helping. We cannot project over the print stand. In fact the room is limiting projecting in front, or behind the print stand.

    I know many members (me included) feel that the projection is getting in the way. At the last print competition I made sure that the judge had the prints beforehand, but if this is not possible, what do we do? This week I want to try something different, but what? Here are some suggestions.

    1. Don’t bother projecting at all, just get the stand and chairs as close as safety will allow.

    2. Show the PDIs before the judging starts.

    3. Show each PDI before the print is seen, then switch off while the judging happens.

    4. Project very small, allowing more flexibility with the placement of the screen (use a small screen too).

    5. Have everyone standing.

    6. Publish small images of the prints beforehand.

    I do not want to do away with collecting PDIs, even if we do not show them on the night. They are such a great aid to handling the prints and allow us to show the entries on the website, even enter them in PDI competitions.

     

    #13504
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    Peter Robinson
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    I think the ideal distance for viewing an A3 print from is about 2 feet. So I think it’s a good idea to have the pictures on display after or before they’re judged for close inspection by members. However, it’s impracticable to display all the prints. It’s impossible for the audience to see all the detail of a print from where they sit.

    As I sit at the back it’s difficult to see the print at all as I’m looking between people’s heads and the print is relatively low down. So I think having a PDI version is a great boon of me. I’ve got used to it and can refer to it when the judge makes his comments. Of course it’s not the same as the print which the judge should be looking at. The issue is that the judge should be looking at the print and not the slide. It’s the judges responsibility to do that.  I think some of your solutions are a bit impracticable, ie points 5 and 6. I disagree with point 1 as I like them to be projected and 2 as if they’re projected while being judged I can refer to the projected image to see what the judge is commenting on. So I’m not being much use here as I not offering a solution. We need to find a way of projecting them with out the judge seeing it which is difficult in our room. Perhaps we just instruct the judge not to look at the projected image?

    #13505
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    ajroyle
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    Something we can discuss tonight.

    If we place the print stand to one side and well forward then have the  screen over to the opposite side, further back, then it may be possible for the audience to see both and the judge to have no casual sight of the screen.

    #13506
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    ajroyle
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    Something we can discuss tonight.

    If we place the print stand to one side and well forward then have the same screen over to the opposite side, further back then it may be possible for the audience to see both and the judge to have no casual sight of the screen

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