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  • ajroyle
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    February 12, 2019 at 5:21 pm #18191

    Today we have a new Lightroom update for Adobe subscribers. I suppose you need the usual caveat that updates in the past have been problematic and it is a good idea to wait a bit. But, something is included which certainly pleases me as a Fuji owner.

    It seems that one new feature may make a better job of rendering detail, especially on Fuji files. Downside is that the rendering takes a long time and also creates a DNG file which is three times the size of your original raw.

    So, while it may not be something to use routinely it may give a benefit on some images.

    We have not heard anything from Laura Shoe on this one yet but Piet van der Eynde has lost no time in telling us all. Everything we have had from Piet has been worthwhile and his new video series on Lightroom is very probably worth a look, especially if you are just starting out with Lightroom.

    https://morethanwords.onfastspring.com/lightroom-classic-in-2-5-hours?mc_cid=c366f000c3&mc_eid=f198023437

    • ajroyle
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      Posts: 814
      February 12, 2019 at 8:21 pm #18192

      Having trialled this on my old laptop I feel that it does offer something on Fujifilm files. I have also watched two YouTube videos about it and one (non-Fuji user) was very dismissive and another (Fuji user) showed that it did work on Fuji files but offered little to a Nikon 800 image.

      My old laptop didn’t render the previews very well and it seems that you need to take a good look at the preview image to judge whether or not to go ahead. You can move over the image in the preview box and compare before and after renditions.

       

      • This reply was modified 1 year ago by ajroyle. Reason: Re-written following further trials
    • ajroyle
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      Posts: 814
      February 13, 2019 at 6:27 am #18194

      Two further discoveries; the enhancement doesn’t work on Windows 7 machines and I may have discovered a bug in the new version – the information which is usually displayed in the top left of the image – has disappeared.

      Caveat emptor

    • ajroyle
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      Posts: 814
      February 13, 2019 at 8:59 am #18195

      More. Ian M has kindly sent across an email with reference to a Fuji blogger who has been trying the new software fow a while.

      He, Thomas Fitzgerald, is absolutely convinced that the enhancement makes a big difference and a better job than other software which users have been migrating to in order to avoid the artifacts which can spoil the detail in some Fuji pictures. Why haven’t Adobe integrated this into the basic process instead of offering it as an add-on? He reckons it makes backwards compatibility better – which may be right.

      In most images these artifacts I am talking about don’t cause any problems, even with large prints, but on the small number of occasions that they cause trouble this new feature of lightroom will probably help.

      If you want to read the blog it is here…

      https://blog.thomasfitzgeraldphotography.com/blog/2019/2/lightroom-introduces-enhance-details-finally-improves-fuji-x-trans-raw-conversion

      Thanks Ian.

       

       

    • ajroyle
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      Posts: 814
      February 16, 2019 at 11:11 am #18238

      Just a further note. I have viewed a further YouTube video on this and the author could not see any difference in the result. He conducted the test quite scientifically and overlayed the two images in Ps to underline his point. The images looked identical to me – though a YouTube video is hardly definitive viewing. He did not say what the shot was taken with but I would guess not a Fujifilm camera. He also pointed ot that the feature demands the latest updates on Apple and Windows, a message appears to tell you that, so Windows 7 is no use for this.

      I can add that there is a lot of excitement over the new Fujifilm XT30. The XTx0 series have always been interesting but the 30 features the same sensor as the XT3, so image quality will be top of the Fuji crop sensor class and many of us will not miss the features stripped off the XT3 to make the much cheaper XT30.

    • ajroyle
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      Posts: 814
      February 17, 2019 at 7:05 pm #18241

      Tony and Chelsea Northrup have a good video on the new Lr Enhance. They found only the tiniest improvement on non-Fuji files and only on certainĀ  types of image, such as night shots. On Fuji files they found a more noticeable improvement in detail BUT there were changes in colour which I thought negated the improvement.

      So overall, not so impressive. You are also winding up with a file 2 or 3 times bigger (still a raw file though).

       

      Personally I can think of only a couple of images this year that I might have tried it on.

    • wbaxter
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      Posts: 253
      February 18, 2019 at 4:23 pm #18256

      Have now eventually loaded LR update but not before having to force a Windows 10 update. The October 2018 update (the latest one) was not a success at the time and was not rolled out across the world, it has now had the bugs sorted and is available. It will or may come out again soon as March 2019.

      Big draw back to the upgrade is you need to have at least 8 GB of spare space on the C drive before it can be loaded.

      On the enhance in LR it looks like a luminosity adjustment for high ISO, was not impressed. On the new updated CS there was a banner saying that there was an enhance device in CS but have not been able to find it.

    • ajroyle
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      Posts: 814
      February 24, 2019 at 9:55 pm #18283

      You do need the latest Windows update in place – is it 1809? It seems that after the upgrade disaster Windows updates are being released progressively to machines capable of taking them (avoiding known clashes). Forcing updates may be a bit risky but prompting them may well be alright.

      Now the dust has settled on this it seems that there are a few teething problems and the enhancement is best seen as something only for Fujifilm X Trans cameras.

      The whole business of achieving image detail is something we can usefully discuss at a meeting. It is a blessing and a curse.

    • wbaxter
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      Posts: 253
      February 25, 2019 at 4:31 pm #18284

      I have found that Topaz De Noise is very good at getting rid of artifacts.

      If you wish to upgrade windows 10 this is the link

      https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4028685/windows-10-get-the-update