December 20, 2016 at 6:18 pm #13205December 20, 2016 at 6:23 pm #13207
I thought the 2nd image had too many distractions, so went for a closer crop and some toning down of the white elements in the background. I still do not think it is right, should it be shown on a totally black backgroundDecember 20, 2016 at 6:53 pm #13209
The first one’s better. I’d try toning down the bright areas even more. (But leave a faint indication of people in the background to give context.) How about encircling the ‘crowd’ area in lightroom with the radial filter; then take down just the highlights first to see if that does the trick – and use the ‘brush’ tool to erase the filter effect from any bits of the gymnast that get affected by the filter?December 20, 2016 at 7:47 pm #13212
Why not try a 100% black background. I think that the rings give context and for me it’s the gymnasts expression and physique that makes the picture. As in life everyone has an opinion, but I would try it and see if you like it. Topaz remask to isolate the gymnast and then go to town on the background.December 21, 2016 at 9:36 am #13215
My vote would be with Ian’s idea, but I suspect Mr. Judge with prefer Martin’s total black backdrop with no distractions whatsoever. In a case like this I prefer a complementary background that supports the subject without overwhelming it. It’s just getting the balance right.December 21, 2016 at 10:47 am #13222
What I tend do is to isolate the subject from the background using a mask. Topaz remark is my preferred filter. You could then apply a new layer fill it with black and adjust the opacity until you have the desired effect. This black layer would be on top of the background leaving the main subject as you intended.
At the end of the day it’s a super image and I sure each of us would present it in different waysDecember 21, 2016 at 4:19 pm #13225December 21, 2016 at 5:34 pm #13227December 21, 2016 at 5:35 pm #13229
Image 4December 21, 2016 at 5:36 pm #13231December 21, 2016 at 7:34 pm #13238
I prefer 3A, as it has some context, but simplicity rules in club photography and 4 may do better.
4A I think is not an improvement. By upping the clarity you are emphasising the shadow of the ropes on his arms, which is having a curious effect on the appearance of the musculature.
Wallace, thank you for submitting these and drawing al the considered opinion – it is one of the things that we always hoped the Forum would do.December 22, 2016 at 10:34 am #13239
Photo 3 would get my vote as I don’t think the background is clear enough in 3A. I prefer photo 4 compared with 4A as I think you need the rope in to show he’s not floating in mid air and it acts as a frame for him.December 22, 2016 at 5:24 pm #13242
Photo 4 would get my vote. The subject is isolated from the background leaving the viewer to concentrate on the gymnast.
Wallace, I agree with John thank you for submitting them. We all have personal preferences and at the end of the day the only person you have to please is you. Its still a cracking image.December 22, 2016 at 5:58 pm #13243
Thank you once again for the comments, its good to have some one to ask for a critique as one tends to see only a limited aspect of any image, and not it’s totality. I think its an emotional thing having created it, like a child of your own you cant see the bad points.
I will put number 4 into the next PDI competition and see how it does. It may be that some of the imperfections caused by the high ISO may manifest themselves, but it looks good on the small screen, not so good when viewed at 200%February 17, 2017 at 6:01 pm #13705
It did well thanks to all the in put for all of you, I think this type of discussion is so helpful. we will try something like this again.
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